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The First Applications of the States
Since the beginning of this nation the states have applied for an Article V Convention at an average rate of one application every four months. The Supreme Court has repeatedly stated that amendment subject has no bearing on the amendment process. The Constitution only specifies one standard for a convention call--an application from each of two-thirds of the state legislatures. You can view the first application submitted by each state at this link. As the evidence proves by 1911 two-thirds of the states had submitted applications for an Article V Convention. The Constitution does not permit nor allow so-called rescissions of the applications. Even if it did, long before a single rescission was submitted (1947 state of Maine to correct a textual error) the states had satisfied the single requirement of the Constitution.
You may also read a summation created by long time convention supporter John Guise showing in sequence of application the state, its date of application, the number of states in the union at the time of the application and the number of states needed to cause a convention call. Accordingly, it can be stated that as of Friday, March 13, 1908 with the application of the state of Washington Congress has been obligated to call an Article V Convention as mandated by the United States Constitution.
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Liberty Amendments Miss the "Mark"
In his newly released book, “The Liberty Amendments—Restoring The American Republic” national conservative radio talk show host Mark R. Levin discusses an Article V Convention and offers twelve amendments he believes a convention should propose. To its credit his book has caused a stir of public interest in an Article V Convention. This is no surprise given the fact Americans are totally fed up with the national government and are desperate for a solution—any reasonable solution—so long as it works. Whatever other issues surround Article V, it is irrefutable—amendments work.
Unfortunately, Levin’s book is a perfect example of a golden opportunity deliberately perverted to advance a dangerous political agenda having nothing to do with “his” proposed amendments. Combined with the fact the book is woefully inaccurate, misleading and was obsolete before publication Levin’s book is presently worthless—except for the fact, as already noted, it has greatly raised public awareness about an Article V Convention. Read More...
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In only what can be only described as a kiss off response Kirk Boyle, legal counsel of the House of Representatives responded in a one page letter to Dan Marks' request for an official count of state applications currently recognized by Congress for an Article V Convention call. The sheer volume of applications in question is best appreciated by examination of this map.
Mr. Boyle’s response was succinct—number of applying states counted by Congress: zero.Mr. Boyle stated Karen Haas, Clerk of the House of Representatives, Read More...
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ArticleV.Org Letter To Congress
At the suggestion of House of Representatives Parliamentarian Tom Wickman, Dan Marks of ArticleV.org has sent a letter of inquiry to Karen Haas, Clerk for the United States House of Representatives regarding the official congressional count of applications by the states for a convention call. Read More...
Walker-England Debate "Gives People Something To Think About"
The long anticipated debate between Trent England, Director of Save Our States Project (SaveOurState.com) and Bill Walker, Co-Founder of Friends of the Article V Convention (FOAVC)on the Article V Convention occurred July 21, 2014 on Internet radio. Hosted by well-known conservative talk show personality Dave Campbell, on Mr. Campbell’s weekly program Clarity From Chaos (http://clarity-from-chaos.com) the debate featured discussion over Mr. England's comments in a recent interview on the Daily Caller opposing an Article V Convention. These reasons given by Mr. England for opposing a convention were: (1) Constitutional amendments are not the solution; (2) a convention plays into the current liberal dialogue (3) proposed amendments are easy to stop; (4) no knows how an actual convention will function; (5) the solution is a renewed respect for the Constitution. The debate may be heard at www.foavc.org/reference/Debate.mp3.
"There was no actual winner or loser in this debate," said Bill Walker afterwards. "There has been so much misinformation and lack of information that any opportunity to get out references and the facts about an Article V Convention is a winner. Both Trent and I agreed we gave people a lot to think about and that means the debate was a winner for everyone. While many may have concerns about it the bottom line of all of this is a convention is mandated by the Constitution and Congress is required to call it. There is going to be a convention and I believe those who have concerns about this constitutional requirement have a duty to get their concerns address and stop using them to permit the government to veto its obligation. I think I expressed that point during the debate."
As to the repeated charge made in the debate by Trent England that his (Walker's) position was not in the real world, Walker said, "I filed the first two federal lawsuits regarding an Article V Convention in U.S. History. I helped gather the state applications into a single record for the first time in U.S. history. The lawsuits were in a real federal court, held before the Supreme Court of the United States with real federal attorneys. The laws discussed and the court rulings used as evidence were real. The applications are real public record.
As far as I am concerned, as Mr. England did not provide references proving his assertions of political opposition by Congress in the debate, that is to say statements by members of Congress that they intend NOT to call a convention, then his assertions are not reality. I realize he was discussing the difference between constitutional law and political reality but Mr. England ignored political facts to reach his conclusion. As stated in the debate the fact Congress has not called yet but is working on the matter in committee does not mean they will not call. Politically, the best course would be for Congress to ignore all efforts to have them call a convention as it gives them total denial. But they haven't done this. They've put these efforts into the public record. So it would appear politically they are obligating themselves to a count of applications. Therefore to prove otherwise requires proof or references. Without reference Mr. England's statements are no more than unsupported speculation which is not reality.
I believe my actions which have all been in the real world of fact and law prove I am well in the bounds of reality. On the other hand, the lack of proof, that is to say, actual references by Mr. England, in my mind, prove he is not. Moreover when presented factual reference regarding the party platform of the GOP opposing the convention, that is supporting the veto of the Constitution by members of the GOP party, Mr. England gave no response in my mind that addressed reality that at least one of the major parties in our country publicly favors its party members vetoing the Constitution. Now that opposition is a political reality and Mr. England, as far as I am concerned, had no answer to that political reality or the political consequences of that position. You don't win elections by promising you will overthrow the constitutional form of government. But this is exactly what the GOP has stated."
Bill Walker has been a leader in the Article V Convention movement for over twenty years. His achievements include filing the first two federal lawsuits in United States history directly dealing with the refusal of Congress to call an Article V Convention and gathering for the first time in United States history a collection of the actual applications by the states for a convention call. The 746 applications from 49 are viewable at www.foavc.org. Mr. Walker has written nearly 60 articles on various aspects of an Article V Convention. He has spoken at both Harvard University and Thomas M. Cooley Law Schools.
Trent England is currently the Director of Save Our States Project which is part of the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs and Liberty Foundation for America located in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mr. England was formerly Executive Vice President at the Freedom Foundation in Olympia, Washington and a Legal Policy Analyst at the Heritage Foundation. He is an attorney licensed to practice law in the state of Washington.
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What is Happening to Our Country?
Are you aware that We The People are being denied our constitutional right to an Article V Convention to propose amendments, despite a whopping 700+ (or more) Article V applications from the state legislatures of 49 of all 50 states? Only 34 (i.e. two thirds) are required. So why has Congress ignored the Constitution? We need your help. If you want to help reclaim our constitutional rights, then you have come to the right place.
The significance of the two lists to the left of this column cannot be underestimated. Both lists PROVE that the states have submitted sufficient applications to cause a convention call long before any so-called "rescissions", same subject amendment or any other concept even existed. These "ideas" were created by the John Birch Society beginning in the 1980's. If challenged the JBS cannot provide one official record supporting their claims of "rescissions", "same subject" and so forth. On the other hand FOAVC, if challenged, can provide specific Supreme Court rulings which refute the JBS claims. The public record is irrefutable: as of Friday, March 13, 1908 and since Congress has been obligated to call a convention by the terms of the Constitution. Unless JBS or any other group purporting to prove a convention call is not now mandated can provide proof by use of the text of the Constitution, the sole term specified having been satisfied, a convention is mandated. Thus the proof that Congress has violated the Constitution and its collective oath of offices is now conclusively demonstrated.
What is the Issue and Our Mission?
Hello and welcome to Friends Of the Article V Convention (FOAVC). We are a non-partisan association of American citizens from every state comprised of a broad range of occupations, ethnicities, religious affiliations and political persuasions. Our common bond and mission is a deep commitment to preserving the values and principles embodied in our founding documents - the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America - upon which this nation was founded.
Article V of the United States Constitution provides that Congress, "on the application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments...". The Founding Fathers of our nation recognized the importance of providing this means by which the citizens of our country could initiate amendments to change and/or clarify the Constitution; the fundamental document which they intended to be not only the blueprint for our federal system but also "the supreme Law of the Land".
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A Letter from Thomas E. Brennan, Former Chief Justice of Michigan
The CRS Reports
On April 11, 2014 the Congressional Research Service published an updated version of its 2012 report on the Article V Convention. The report was the second such report in two months, the first report being published March 7, 2014. Both reports provide the latest details about events occurring in the Article V Convention movement. The April report can be read at:
The March report can be read at:
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